Continuation Betting

[aamir6433]

Wanted some advice on c-bets. It's a pretty weak part of my game. I'm talking mostly in the sense where you're the pf raiser and missed the flop.

A few things:

-How often to c-bet? Like, how to be aggressive without becoming too predictable

-How the amount of people in the pot and position affects whether you bet

-The ideal boards for c-betting and what you felt a bad board for a c-bet was?

[thefairy]

So much depends o whether your c-bets get through or not i think

1. What level are you playing? if it is NL50 and below then i think you really can afford to c-bet about 80 percent of flops. as long as it is nothing rediculously scary or drawy like 7,8,9 2flushed or two picture cards youve missed, you can be pretty certain to take down a surprizeing amount of pots

2. The amount. Usually about 2/3 of the pot is good size of c-bet i would say

3. if theres is about 4 people in the pot, i usually dont bother if ive whiffed the board.

4. Peoples stats, how often they fold to cbet (is a totally obvious) yet important stat.

5. and obviously your aggression factor, if you play alot of hands come out aggressive and mix things up you probably going to get played back at, at some point.

6. mix things up, drop down a level that you play under and try 500 hands cbetting abnoramally alot and try not, and check yourr non showdown winnings.

7. dont take my advice.

[Gerrard48LFC]

Originally Posted by thefairy

So much depends o whether your c-bets get through or not i think

1. dont take my advice.

fyp..........

[Mike]

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[Browen]

I tend to c-bet about 70% of the time, a bit less on dangerous boards (suited, paired or 3 to a straight). I actually c-bet less often when there's a T on board as well, since it connects with a caller's range (pair or draw) far more often than any other card.

[bizkit]

Read the first post of both 2+2 links there's some valueable information and different perspectives. No one strategy is necessarily superior to the other.

Originally Posted by aamir6433

-How often to c-bet? Like, how to be aggressive without becoming too predictable

I'd like to add an additional factor here. Sometimes the overall stake of the game can affect how often you CBet. Lets say you're at a micro $.5/$.10 game you're often times going to be bleeding money by betting into one or two opponents with nothing. You can play more fit or fold style and focus on value betting your hands relentlessly. On the other hand a weak tight $1/$2 game I would probably bet all dry unconnected boards without even thinking about it.

Originally Posted by aamir6433

-How the amount of people in the pot and position affects whether you bet

3 or more opponents I tend not to fire at all. If there's two calling stations in the pot I'll treat it more like a 3 opponent flop. 2 weak tight opponents I'm more likely to bet. Heads up I will mix in some checks with cbets sometimes but likely always betting against a fit and fold type player. More inclined to bet OOP then IP.

Originally Posted by aamir6433

-The ideal boards for c-betting and what you felt a bad board for a c-bet was?

Ideal: Dry boards with one big card. K72 rainbow even K42 rainbow isn't bad. Not Ideal: Wet boards likely to hit their range QJ8 two suited.

[tan_man25]

I tend to C-bet alot also.

Out of position c-bet is good because it also gives you info on your oponent, depending on whether they flat, or re-raise, not to mention the chance that they may just fold. It can also work as a block-bet so that you will (in most scenarios) be able to see a turn card for less than if you checked!

Also, if you do C-bet alot, then make sure that even when you do flop a monster you C-bet also. You can use your frequent C-betting tendency to trap your oponent!

And my final piece of advice is to take Marks advice to not take his advice, lol, jk.

[James]

depending on your stakes i think it differs, with low stakes nl 50 and below i think you can profitably cbet 100% of flops HU then adapt if you see somone playing back at you. Most people at these stakes will however not play back at you so most of the time you wont have to adapt.

this article written by yours truly :P will help you though:
C Betting Guide (Flop Texture)
C Betting Guide (Flop Texture)

[Pates]

I c-bet a hell of a lot online. Basically at the stakes I play it's not often you'll find a decent player that starts adjusting and floating. When they do start adjusting and floating, keep c-betting those flopped sets. A lot of players will assume you have nothing every time you c-bet a flop and make rediculous moves on the turn and river.

With a big flopped hand, I tend to juice the pot with a c-bet because it is totally disguised. Then on the turn and river I have a pot where I can make decent sized bets to rake in max return. Only reason I c-bet so much is to disguise almost every hand I play.

I also find c-betting all suited flops takes down the pot most of the time. Chances are they won't have a flush draw, if they are holding on a flop then they're never going to even consider floating (obviously adjust to fishies). However if the flop came then they are much more likely to call your c-bet.

[The Incompetent-Donkey]

Originally Posted by Browen

I tend to c-bet about 70% of the time, a bit less on dangerous boards (suited, paired or 3 to a straight). I actually c-bet less often when there's a T on board as well, since it connects with a caller's range (pair or draw) far more often than any other card.

I agree with the amount, but not with the method.

Qxx boards (rainbow)- you can probably get away with a 1/3th pot bet with all your range
same applies to Q-Ax

Jxx boards (rainbow)- make it more like half pot with the best 40% and worst 20% of your range

AX(X+1) rainbow- bit more than half pot bet with a large proportion your range

Q9ishX with two suits- 70-85% of the pot, but pure bluff infrequently

three broadway two suits- bet almost all your range (not from button) and bet 2/3rds of the pot

I'm going to stop now, as more examples would be pointless and of course your opponent will affect how often you bluff, if you bluff at all, and what price.

Generally on safe boards where it is unlikely that your opponent has hit anything you can bet less more frequently and vice versa for draw heavy boards.