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  1. 10-20-2009, 03:32 PM #1
    Gerrard48LFC
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    QQ Line Check

    PokerStars Game #34268292787: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2009/10/20 9:58:35 ET
    Table 'Kiviuq II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Gerrard48LFC ($63.10 in chips)
    Seat 2: jasocrime1 ($80.60 in chips)
    Seat 3: Sou_Cagao ($53.55 in chips)
    Seat 4: Mr-11Seven ($23.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: farfalla7 ($59.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: nordwand ($24.05 in chips)
    jasocrime1: posts small blind $0.25
    Sou_Cagao: posts big blind $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Gerrard48LFC [ ]
    Mr-11Seven: folds
    farfalla7: folds
    nordwand: folds
    Gerrard48LFC: raises $1 to $1.50
    jasocrime1: folds
    Sou_Cagao: raises $5.50 to $7
    Gerrard48LFC: calls $5.50
    *** FLOP *** [ ]
    Sou_Cagao: bets $9
    Gerrard48LFC: calls $9
    *** TURN *** [ ] []
    Sou_Cagao: bets $37.55 and is all-in
    Gerrard48LFC: calls $37.55
    *** RIVER *** [ ] []
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Sou_Cagao: shows [ ] (a pair of Jacks)
    Gerrard48LFC: shows [ ] (a pair of Queens)
    Gerrard48LFC collected $104.35 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $107.35 | Rake $3
    Board [Jc 5s 6c 7h Td]
    Seat 1: Gerrard48LFC (button) showed [Qd Qh] and won ($104.35) with a pair of Queens
    Seat 2: jasocrime1 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: Sou_Cagao (big blind) showed [Kd Jd] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 4: Mr-11Seven folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: farfalla7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: nordwand folded before Flop (didn't bet)


    Vil is 21/14/16 over 150 hands
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  2. 10-20-2009, 04:33 PM #2
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    If thats how he chooses to play his KJ the lines fine.

    Am I missing something here or did KJ roffles boy like over play his hand hard.

    I always laugh at people who 3bet KJ as it too me is clear indicator that someone is an aggrotard. There is like one place it's fine and that's iso 3betting against a loose opening reg with station of fish behind him and ahead of you, after that in a cash game you can be sure it's retarded.
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  3. 10-20-2009, 05:02 PM #3
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    Obviously on the turn you're ahead. He's never playing a set that fast but he might have over pockets which you should stack off to anyway. More likely he has a draw. I'm guessing he's still getting KJ in on that flop so you might as well raise rather than give him another card.
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  4. 10-20-2009, 05:53 PM #4
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    Raise 4bb PF, 4bet PF.

    As played, raise flop. There's pretty much no turn card we like.

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  5. 10-20-2009, 05:59 PM #5
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    I don't think the big blind is a horrible player just because he 3bets here. Gerrard's opening range from the button is supposedly at least 35% of hands. I'm certainly playing KJs, it's just a matter of whether I raise or call. When you do raise and you are called sometimes you end up in tough situations like this.

    I think I agree with Plates from the QQ side. Its very possible a club could kill your action(every now and again he'll wake up with two clubs too), ace or king puts you in a confusing spot potentially, and he's probably pretty content getting it in on the flop as he really doesn't have another choice unless you're a nit postflop.
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  6. 10-20-2009, 06:27 PM #6
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    3betting KJ is bad if you're not willing to give it up unless you hit a big hand IMO. I'd prefer a 3bet with ****ty cards because this is pretty much a bluff.

    Gerrards opening range from BTN might be 35% but his 4betting/calling 3bet range undoubtedly crushes KJ.
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  7. 10-20-2009, 09:50 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Raise 4bb PF, 4bet PF.

    As played, raise flop. There's pretty much no turn card we like.

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    ^^ Hoped that wasn't aimed towards me

    Anyhow..

    Gerrard48LFC: raises $1 to $1.50
    jasocrime1: folds
    Sou_Cagao: raises $5.50 to $7
    Gerrard48LFC: calls $5.50
    *** FLOP *** [ ]
    Sou_Cagao: bets $9
    Gerrard48LFC: calls $9
    ^^
    Should of overbet here or folded IMO
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  8. 10-20-2009, 10:15 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD3lta View Post
    *** FLOP *** [ ]
    Sou_Cagao: bets $9
    Gerrard48LFC: calls $9
    ^^
    Should of overbet here or folded IMO
    do you know what overbet means?
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  9. 10-20-2009, 10:24 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD3lta View Post
    ^^ Hoped that wasn't aimed towards me
    Firstly, you havn't posted in this thread. How the hell could it possibly be aimed at you. Get over yourself.

    Secondly, results should be hidden because it influences peoples' opinions. Which should be obvious, but apparently isn't.
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  10. 10-20-2009, 10:29 PM #10
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    Mike- http://www.pokerisrigged.com/showthr...?t=3621&page=2
    Post #16, you said it, I was just trying to throw out an inside joke

    SJP- overbetting the pot
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