A little too ambitious with T2P against a fish

[The Incompetent-Donkey]

I have 103 hands on villain and he is a fish 43/11/1.6AF with a fold to 3bet of 50%. I have been reasonably active as the player to my right is nitty and easy to push around and I think he will loosen his range up pre so I'm confident that my 3bet was for value. Villain was calling value bets reasonably light.

I made a mistake pre as my 3bet should be more like 65-70c

I made a mistake on the turn as I would have preferred a bet of $2.10 making the river shove easier. As it played out my shove was a tiny amount over the pot, but ah well cest la vie.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
3 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by http://weaktight.com/

Stacks:
BTN wantedchips $9.81
SB NexXa $13.45
BB Hero $12.56

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 3 players) Hero is BB Jd As
wantedchips raises to $0.20, NexXa folds, Hero raises to $0.55, wantedchips calls $0.35

Flop: Jh 9h 5c ($1.12, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, wantedchips calls $0.75

Turn: Ah ($2.62, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.85, wantedchips calls $1.85

River: Ts ($6.32, 2 players)
Hero bets $6.65,


Do you think my bet on the end will be called enough by worse to be value owning rather than cutting?

[bridgey321]

3 bet size is too small imo. To $0.75 is good imo.

Everything else seems fine to me, Quite a few 2 pairs in his range to make this a value bet fine. I think.

[thefairy]

agree with bridge, if hes calling 60bbs hes calling 120 so i like your bet.

[Mike]

I agree with your own criticisms. Your shove on the river is probably (as in, I havn't bothered to load PS) marginal and I don't mind it. The T helps his hand so much he'll turn up with two pair alot I think.

As played, I bet pot on flop. He's 43/11. If he's calling $0.75 with a worse hand, he's calling $1.10.

Out of interest, what would you do if villain shoved turn, as played?

[The Incompetent-Donkey]

I agree with your own criticisms. Your shove on the river is probably (as in, I havn't bothered to load PS) marginal and I don't mind it. The T helps his hand so much he'll turn up with two pair alot I think.

As played, I bet pot on flop. He's 43/11. If he's calling $0.75 with a worse hand, he's calling $1.10.

Out of interest, what would you do if villain shoved turn, as played?

On the turn if villain had shoved I probably would have cried, I think it should be a bet/fold type of situation but the fish in me would want to call. I don't know whether it would be the right play or not though. I'm glad you asked though because it's definitely worth thinking about.

[bizkit]

Have we been sitting 3 handed? If not the villain's ATS is pretty important. Some other things I'd like to know in no particular order on villain are:

fold flop to cbet, float t, w$wsf, wtsd, w$sd

[The Incompetent-Donkey]

Have we been sitting 3 handed? If not the villain's ATS is pretty important. Some other things I'd like to know in no particular order on villain are:

fold flop to cbet, float t, w$wsf, wtsd, w$sd

About 50%, dont know, dont know, 35%, don't know

[bizkit]

no ATS? Attempt to steal is huge here. If he's only raising with like 11% of his hands from co,bu & sb his range is a lot tighter here.

I think if you raise more preflop and bet the pot on the flop you'd probably be committed even with this turn. As played, I think I gear more towards pot control. The only two pair made river hands he can have that might have called are limited to T9, JT, AT. JT & T9 aren't even necessarily in our villain's PFR. AT seems a little insane as well. There's a lot more flush draws potentially in his range and this sort of passive opponent type might be in flat calling mode as long as the chips have a high probability of going in.

The turn card is just downright scary for any hand that doesn't have you beat. Of course this is $.02/$.05 and his WTSD is high assuming that's what that is. Depending on his float turn & w$wsf & bet river I take a variety of lines on the turn which are either: check with intention of calling 1; and probably close to pot on the river if checked, check raise commit(vs a heavy floater), check fold(maybe vs an opponent with low aggression that doesn't float)

[The Incompetent-Donkey]

In the end Villain tank folded.

[Pates]

The ace is probably not a good card to start going crazy on. Valuebet the river big time, this guy probably flips KJ/QJ all day everday.

Also agree with the 3-bet sizing being too small. It'll let you get away with a bigger value bet next time you get to the river.