I was just wondering whether or not this is the right way to play this or whether I should just call instead of 3bet. Its a $24+2 freezeout
I was just wondering whether or not this is the right way to play this or whether I should just call instead of 3bet. Its a $24+2 freezeout
Tbh, at early stages of the tournament with these stacks, I think 3-bet calling in this spot is fine. Flatting here is pretty horrible. There's so much in the pot to pick up and UTG is going to fold out a lot of pairs unless he just wants to gamble. I think you played it fine. If there wern't so many limpers I'll probably 3bet fold to a shove. I hate playing anything out of position without being the aggressor.
You just have to know who you're playing against. Spots like these are just horrible. I can't just complete because I'm clearly ahead but wtf am I supposed to do when you're playing droolers. N/m, didn't quite bet pot either *slaps on wrist*.
Last edited by Pates; 02-08-2010 at 07:48 PM.
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I disagree with platefish here. The problem I have with 3 betting is we are never getting it in good when we 3bet. If you get action you are crushed and our chip stack does not allow us to do anything else but get it in. I see nothing wrong with being a nit here and just flatting PF and CRAI any flop we hit TP or some kind of overcards/straight draw combo. If we miss we just c/f.
Even if we had 3K or more here, 3betting AQo OOP is SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEWEY in the early levels. In early levels I either flat and play postflop or even the occassional muck preflop here. AQo doesnt really have a lot of value OOP in early levels of MTTs. This case is a little different bc of all the dead money in there and the possibility of flopping TP and having someone outkicked.
For the most part, most people are fairly respectable in MTTs. Its not 2005 anymore. Probably 80% of players have at least a vague clue how to play a TAG game.
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when i say people know how to play TAG, I should say a TAG preflop game. most players still dont know how to play postflop
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I don't mind getting it in bad if we know the EP raiser is folding out a large number of his holdings and there's a decent number of them in his range. Obviously, if we don't have that type of information available to us it's between flatting or folding. To me taking a flop here and CRAI flops where we hit TPTK or TPSK is pretty problematic as well. With so many opponents in the pot I think the original raiser is often going to be way ahead when he happens to bet out. And are we really that far ahead of anyone who is betting out? I just don't even want to deal with this type of scenario this early and would probably lean towards folding unless multiple spewy bad predictable players were in the pot.
If original raiser is a nit im folding otherwise IM ARR IN
I do not see how jamming 60 BBs in with AQo is ever worth it during early levels. It is probably +cEV, but not by much. I just think with 60 BBs and no antes, I should be putting a little more value on my tourny life than to be jamming it in w/ AQo. If I only have 1600 chips, then I agree to shove.
But think, it is 100 more to call, less than 5% of our remaining stack, and we are getting 5 to 1 on that 100 of money already in the pot. IMO, thats a good deal. And we have the perfect stack to CRAI a fair amount of flops.
On the other hand, this is a great spot to overshove your big hands here. I would 100% be jamming JJ+/AK here. Other than that I am flatting or folding.
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