Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Rate My Bluff in FTOPS event 1

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    148

    Rate My Bluff in FTOPS event 1

    http://www.pokerhand.org/?5174381

    Villain is pretty bad. Only real read and is from OPR/Scope, also this is way above his av BI.

    Thoughts on all streets please...

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    775
    Flop - Surely bet??

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2,825
    I'm not going to say do this do that, because I'm really v.bad at MTTs.

    What was your reason for not betting the flop? Pot control?

    I'm not sure what you're repping by flatting turn and jamming the river with spades out on the turn?
    =

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    996
    I do not have a major problem with any part of your line except your open amount preflop. Personally, I like to limp behind with a hand like 77 here, but occassionally I will try to iso everyone but the donk out of the pot. Even though we have the villian's range crushed, we are never comfortable getting it in anywhere postflop unless we flop a set. So with that said, I like to give myself the BEST chance to take this pot down preflop if I am raising. The least amount I am raising pre would be 1000 (slightly less than 4x). It is just that your raise amount gives you next to no chance to take this down pre, and as a consequence we get into a ton of tricky/spewey/bull**** spots later on in the hand.

    Normally I check behind this flop, and would definately just call the turn. On the river, I think it is either fold or go all in. I would fold here probably 80% and jam the rest of the time.
    beating the RNG one MTT at a time

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    6,706
    It's a terrible call from villain preflop. Checking flop with position is ok for value on later streets but what are we getting value from? According to his line up to the river, the river is perfect to ship on with fold equity. Maybe his UTG lead on the river is just too strong and we have to muck. I don't see a bad player leading this river light tbh. Most terrible players will be scared of the ace and won't bet it unless they have it (same with the K)
    Last edited by Pates; 02-11-2010 at 05:17 PM.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    291
    Preflop I probably raise a little more, around 1000 total. I prefer betting the flop in this spot, most of the time you're ahead and I don't think there's much of the villains range that you're getting any extra value out of by checking behind and you're just giving him extra chances to hit. Call on the turn is fine. The river is tough, I shove some, fold some but it really depends alot on what I know about a player so given that you don't know much its probably a fold. From OPR all you know is that villain is a donk, you don't know whether he's the type of donk thats gonna snap the river with K9 or the "how can he shove without the nuts?" type donk that you can push off almost anything.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    6,706
    Quote Originally Posted by 891327 View Post
    Preflop I probably raise a little more, around 1000 total.
    I definitely think we should be adjusting our bet sizing with position. If they have any clue, they will have a very hard time flat calling out of position so it's unnecessary to inflate the pot (and makes betting a lot easier/cheaper on later streets).

    If he wanted to play 77 like this out of position (probably unlikely against a high VPIP player) then I'd definitely want to make it a bigger bet.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    752
    I looked at that HH for 5 minutes thinking wtf is going through statos1 mind at I just got truely cluster****ed. You raise pre (nothing wrong with that) and flop a good but vulnerable hand for your sevens so you decide to check it then call a brick on the turn (because you assume you have the best hand?) then try to bluff the one card that hits a bad players range the hardest on the river. Why did you do that?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •