two more to mull.

[thefairy]

The hell is going on here? please pick apart every street.



I hate this, feeling i should shove this flop, im fecking leaky vs 80-50 bb stacks imo.

[Pates]

First hand is played well. If he bets the river I'm folding. Note the guy for blowing up like that for no apparent reason.

2nd hand is a cbet-fold spot all day. How come you called this with just 3 to 1?

[nickstrick1]

1st hand is played well, like the bet sizing. I'd be temped to raise the turn as his bet is so fishy after such a strong check raise. I think betting 3.75 or whatever on the turn makes it pretty obvious that he's not even playing a big draw because he's not continuing with the same rep. as flop play. But i like the small balling, he could have a random 2pair or something, esp. by the river.

2nd hand is a tough spot imo, just because he took such a tricky line, I think JJ is pretty much the only hand in his range that takes that line. Short handed its pretty rare to see a guy so deep to flat jacks on the btn. But unless he's running post-flop-aggro/high shove %age or you have mad reads on him it's pretty much a fold. What's the villains stats/ptr like?

[thefairy]

stats were pretty average, i aint ptr'd him, thing is put him on Jacks or Queens, it kinda of seemed an over pair or A10/K10, ironicly i had the odds to call on the end, but you are right its a bad call vs his range.

[aamir6433]

I don't think anything different than to what has already been mentioned, except i don't think raising the turn on hand 1 achieves anything and the line you took is fine.

[Pates]

Odds to call? I got you down as 3 to 1. You're not quite getting the odds. I'll run it.

I lied. Good call.

Maybe cbet stronger so it's more clear cut and might make him fold out more.

[bizkit]

Hand #1 is fine. As said the turn bet is very suspicious and isn't really in line with having a huge hand as he'd have to overshove more than the pot to get all your chips. And it would be very nitty to fold the flop to the raise so I don't think you really have any choices but to play the hand as played.

Hand #2 I think the problem occurs preflop. If you always feel the need to 3bet these type of hands and not adapt to the stack sizes/opponents you're going to find yourself in this spot time and time again. I think this is why you're feeling like you're leaky between 50-80 bb's.

Generalizing a bit there's a problem that occurs when you 3bet a hand like AK or AQ into an opponent who isn't likely to fold and has a stack around 50-80 bb's. The number of bb's is a bit variable based upon the preflop raise amount and if there's cold callers. But, I think this situation applies fairly well assuming our opponent who cold called is pretty bad and will generally flat a 3bet here often. So, once we get to the flop we've got $9.30 in the pot and about $16.50 behind. If we make a cbet that's too big we're generally going to be around "pot committed" to call although 2/3rds of the time we're going to miss the flop and we really don't know how strong our opponents range is. He's probably folding out a lot of stuff that misses but when he hits he's probably not letting go and he'll probably be significantly ahead.

So, your only options become make a smaller cbet and then fold if you get raised, make a bigger cbet and commit yourself, or try some type of check raise. Unless you have some great reads on your calling station type player postflop you're going to find none of these lines are overly great. Another option is just to flat the initial preflop raise. This will solve a lot of problems and keep you out of a spot where you're usually going to miss and face a big pot decision for an implied stack of over 50 big blinds. It will also add a little bit of deception into your game.

[JD3lta]

Bizkits last paragraph seems to hold true. Especially with hand 2. You got 'pot commited syndrome there'.. I respect your aggressiveness. Villian's all-in was an overbet though. And overbets usually mean Nuts. That shouldn't happen often though, UL.

[Gerrard48LFC]

Villian's all-in was an overbet though. And overbets usually mean Nuts. That shouldn't happen often though, UL.

Wiser words have never been spoken.

[stato_1]

Cant really understand why no-one wants to c/fold flop in hand 2